Becoming a Freemasonary as a Christian.

Stewart

Member
I have been a Christian for about ten years. I have recently got interested in Freemasonry and would like to explore the subject much further, perhaps evening applying to join sometime in the future. I heard good and bad things about the Society and would like to find out about being a Christian and a Freemason. Anyone out there know about this.
 

ishaknatan

Beta Tester
Christian have interesting discussion . . .
 

Johnny NL

Well-Known Member
Here is a great sermon by Dr. H.T. Spence on the topic, just click on the title it should take you to the download for the sermon. Please give it a listen.
The Christian and Secret Societies
That "COULDN'T" be more clearer !!!
Amen Lord for the BIBLE, The True WORD of GOD !
Thanks Ruthlyn, it was known of me, but not in such details.
What a great teaching.
 

Johnny NL

Well-Known Member
seducing spirits...?!!???.... lollll
1 Timothy 4:1-2
 
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Truckerboy

Member
I have been a Christian for about ten years. I have recently got interested in Freemasonry and would like t'sexplore the subject much further, perhaps evening applying to join sometime in the future. I heard good and bad things about the Society and would like to find out about being a Christian and a Freemason. Anyone out there know about this.
As a born again Christian you cannot join the Freemasons, Stewart. Apart from the fact that you can't apply to join - it is by invite only, as a member you have to swear your allegiance to the Craft above anything else. If nothing else, that contradicts the command to "have no other gods before Me". But there is a plethora of reasons to not get involved, some of which you may find difficult to believe.

The idea of becoming a mason is attractive, because the organisation does do a lot of good, charitable work, although much of it is actually for those involved with Freemasonry. So for example, the local masons made a large financial donation to the Cathedral in the city where I live here in the UK. Indeed, because of work I did for a local charity, I was invited to join a the Royal Antidiluvian order of the Buffalo, which tends to act as a feeder organisation to Freemasonry. I declined, of course.

A number of people have asked who or what the god of Freemasonry is, and are told that the god of Freemasonry is the god that they have brought with them. That in itself should give off warning bells, because it is effectively "all roads lead to God". However, it goes deeper than that, and does get worse. Freemasonry has its own hierarchy, which has 33 levels, called "degrees", and you enter as a 1st degree mason, and away you go. As with joining, ascending the degrees is by invite, as and when you are deemed capable of handling the next stages. At the 3rd degree you are told that the god of Freemasonry has a name, which is "Jahbulon", and it is a triune deity comprising "Jahweh", the God of Judaism, "Bul" ("Baal", the god of the Phoenicians and "On", another name for Osiris, the Egyptian god of the underworld. The fact that it is a triune god seems to have been a reason that a large number of Methodist, Baptist and Anglican ministers became Freemasons, especially here in the UK. That at best, Jahbulon is two-thirds demonic didn't seem to worry them. However if you raise this name in discussions about Freemasonry, you will get a varied response, with many trying to refute you. However, much of that opposition will come from 1st or 2nd degree masons, who simply do not know about Jahbulon.

When you reach around the 28th to the 33rd degrees, you will be deemed able to handle the real name of Freemasonry's god, which is Lucifer. Oh dear - and no wonder that this is kept secret from the majority of Freemasons, and certainly not something which the craft will be open about. It also tells you that Freemasonry think that it is perfectly all right to lie and mislead, deliberately deceiving the majority of its members.

I started researching this when the subject of Freemasonry and the church came to the surface in the late 1980's here in the UK, and discovered just how powerful and far-reaching the organisation is, and just how many world events are influenced by the craft. I also felt somewhat helpless, especially as I found that people who opposed the craft put themselves at risk. Having found all this out, what could little me do about it, and indeed, was I at risk? After much prayer, I was re-assured by the scripture "greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world". And that should I find myself coming across masonic activity, all I needed to do was pray about it, and see what the Lord would do, or have me to do.
 

Stewart

Member
As a born again Christian you cannot join the Freemasons, Stewart. Apart from the fact that you can't apply to join - it is by invite only, as a member you have to swear your allegiance to the Craft above anything else. If nothing else, that contradicts the command to "have no other gods before Me". But there is a plethora of reasons to not get involved, some of which you may find difficult to believe.

The idea of becoming a mason is attractive, because the organisation does do a lot of good, charitable work, although much of it is actually for those involved with Freemasonry. So for example, the local masons made a large financial donation to the Cathedral in the city where I live here in the UK. Indeed, because of work I did for a local charity, I was invited to join a the Royal Antidiluvian order of the Buffalo, which tends to act as a feeder organisation to Freemasonry. I declined, of course.

A number of people have asked who or what the god of Freemasonry is, and are told that the god of Freemasonry is the god that they have brought with them. That in itself should give off warning bells, because it is effectively "all roads lead to God". However, it goes deeper than that, and does get worse. Freemasonry has its own hierarchy, which has 33 levels, called "degrees", and you enter as a 1st degree mason, and away you go. As with joining, ascending the degrees is by invite, as and when you are deemed capable of handling the next stages. At the 3rd degree you are told that the god of Freemasonry has a name, which is "Jahbulon", and it is a triune deity comprising "Jahweh", the God of Judaism, "Bul" ("Baal", the god of the Phoenicians and "On", another name for Osiris, the Egyptian god of the underworld. The fact that it is a triune god seems to have been a reason that a large number of Methodist, Baptist and Anglican ministers became Freemasons, especially here in the UK. That at best, Jahbulon is two-thirds demonic didn't seem to worry them. However if you raise this name in discussions about Freemasonry, you will get a varied response, with many trying to refute you. However, much of that opposition will come from 1st or 2nd degree masons, who simply do not know about Jahbulon.

When you reach around the 28th to the 33rd degrees, you will be deemed able to handle the real name of Freemasonry's god, which is Lucifer. Oh dear - and no wonder that this is kept secret from the majority of Freemasons, and certainly not something which the craft will be open about. It also tells you that Freemasonry think that it is perfectly all right to lie and mislead, deliberately deceiving the majority of its members.

I started researching this when the subject of Freemasonry and the church came to the surface in the late 1980's here in the UK, and discovered just how powerful and far-reaching the organisation is, and just how many world events are influenced by the craft. I also felt somewhat helpless, especially as I found that people who opposed the craft put themselves at risk. Having found all this out, what could little me do about it, and indeed, was I at risk? After much prayer, I was re-assured by the scripture "greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world". And that should I find myself coming across masonic activity, all I needed to do was pray about it, and see what the Lord would do, or have me to do.
 

Stewart

Member
Thank you for your reply - I will take on board the various points you have made - Merry Christ and a Happy New Year
 

terrpn

Active Member

Min. Hampton Jr

New Member
I have been a Christian for about ten years. I have recently got interested in Freemasonry and would like to explore the subject much further, perhaps evening applying to join sometime in the future. I heard good and bad things about the Society and would like to find out about being a Christian and a Freemason. Anyone out there know about this.
You can only serve one Master.
 

RevTim

Beta Tester
As a born again Christian you cannot join the Freemasons, Stewart. Apart from the fact that you can't apply to join - it is by invite only, as a member you have to swear your allegiance to the Craft above anything else. If nothing else, that contradicts the command to "have no other gods before Me". But there is a plethora of reasons to not get involved, some of which you may find difficult to believe.
I re-read what you wrote here, brother, and it reminded me of Freemasonry and the Great White Throne judgment (web site source linked)

This is what you hear, when you are presented with your Masonic apron: (Nevada Ritual, pages 25 & 26):

"My Brother, I now present you this lambskin or white leather apron. It is an emblem of innocence and the badge of a Mason – the distinguished badge of a Mason."

"It may be that, in the coming years, upon your head may rest the laurel wreaths of victory; pendent from your breast may hang jewels fit to grace the diadem of an Eastern potentate; nay, more than these, with light added to the coming light, your ambitious feet may tread round after round of the ladder that leads to fame in our mystic circle, and even the purple of the Fraternity may rest upon your honored shoulders; but never again from mortal hands, never again until your enfranchised spirit shall have passed upward and inward through the pearly gates, shall any honor so distinguished, so emblematical of purity and all perfections, be conferred upon you as this which I now bestow."

"It is yours; yours to wear throughout an honorable life and at your death to be deposited upon the coffin which shall enclose your lifeless remains, and with them laid beneath the clods of the valley. Let its pure and spotless surface be to you an ever present reminder of a purity of life and rectitude of conduct," a never ending argument for nobler deeds, for higher thoughts, for greater achievements. And when at last your weary feet shall have come to the end of life's toilsome journey, and from your nerveless grasp shall drop forever the working tools of life, may the record of your life and actions be as pure and spotless as this fair emblem which I place within your hands tonight; and when your trembling soul shall stand naked and alone before the Great White Throne, there to receive judgment for the deeds done while here in the body, may it be your portion to hear from Him who sitteth as the Judge Supreme the welcome words: 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant! Thou hast been faithful over a few things; I will make thee ruler over many things! Enter thou into the joy of Thy Lord'."
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Here is the Great White Throne judgment in Scripture:
Revelation 20:11-15 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Freemasons do not worship Jehovah Jesus, and they are not looking or hoping for the right judgment.

Very sad stuff, indeed.
 

Stewart

Member
I re-read what you wrote here, brother, and it reminded me of Freemasonry and the Great White Throne judgment (web site source linked)

This is what you hear, when you are presented with your Masonic apron: (Nevada Ritual, pages 25 & 26):

"My Brother, I now present you this lambskin or white leather apron. It is an emblem of innocence and the badge of a Mason – the distinguished badge of a Mason."

"It may be that, in the coming years, upon your head may rest the laurel wreaths of victory; pendent from your breast may hang jewels fit to grace the diadem of an Eastern potentate; nay, more than these, with light added to the coming light, your ambitious feet may tread round after round of the ladder that leads to fame in our mystic circle, and even the purple of the Fraternity may rest upon your honored shoulders; but never again from mortal hands, never again until your enfranchised spirit shall have passed upward and inward through the pearly gates, shall any honor so distinguished, so emblematical of purity and all perfections, be conferred upon you as this which I now bestow."

"It is yours; yours to wear throughout an honorable life and at your death to be deposited upon the coffin which shall enclose your lifeless remains, and with them laid beneath the clods of the valley. Let its pure and spotless surface be to you an ever present reminder of a purity of life and rectitude of conduct," a never ending argument for nobler deeds, for higher thoughts, for greater achievements. And when at last your weary feet shall have come to the end of life's toilsome journey, and from your nerveless grasp shall drop forever the working tools of life, may the record of your life and actions be as pure and spotless as this fair emblem which I place within your hands tonight; and when your trembling soul shall stand naked and alone before the Great White Throne, there to receive judgment for the deeds done while here in the body, may it be your portion to hear from Him who sitteth as the Judge Supreme the welcome words: 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant! Thou hast been faithful over a few things; I will make thee ruler over many things! Enter thou into the joy of Thy Lord'."
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Here is the Great White Throne judgment in Scripture:
Revelation 20:11-15 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Freemasons do not worship Jehovah Jesus, and they are not looking or hoping for the right judgment.

Very sad stuff, indeed.
I never followed it though and will never join the Freemasons-but they do have an interesting back history. I am going to stick with the KJV Bible and only the KJV's Bible. I am reading the whole bible - an hour a day, and doing "close" reading of the New Testament books. I am also learning Bible verses and my house is plastered with bible verse on the walls.
 

RevTim

Beta Tester
I never followed it though and will never join the Freemasons-but they do have an interesting back history. I am going to stick with the KJV Bible and only the KJV's Bible. I am reading the whole bible - an hour a day, and doing "close" reading of the New Testament books. I am also learning Bible verses and my house is plastered with bible verse on the walls.
Amen. Keep at it!
 
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