jerrybouey
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I have always thought of this verse a certain way:
Romans 1:4 (KJV) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Though it is lower case, I have believed this is referring to the Holy Spirit (there are some places in the King James that I believe refer to the Holy Spirit but have a lower case "s", such as Psalm 51:11.
I have ever since a young believer believed that this verse was saying the Holy Spirit rose Jesus Christ from the dead (various passages attribute this to all three members of the Trinity), but now something has made me pause and wonder if I have a wrong understanding of this verse.
I don't make theology based on patterns, but the numbers in the Scripture (or things repeated so many times, etc. show that is is no doubt God's Book - man could not have written it with so many numerical patterns and still have it make sense. Referring to things such as the seven statements from the cross, Jesus' seven I AM's in John, seven public miracles in John, seven feasts in John, etc. I love sevens and when I read of one or see one myself, I make note of it. I found one the other day. In Romans 8, there are 14 verses about the Holy Spirit. This is the chapter after Paul describes the struggles believers have with the flesh, and wondering how we get the victory (Romans 7:24), then he goes on to show us in Romans 8 it is through the power and leading of the Holy Spirit. 14 times signifying complete victory. Ok, interesting pattern.
Then I looked up all other references to the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost in Romans. Seven more in the whole book.
There are 14 verses in this chapter that mention the (Holy) Spirit:
Romans 8:1, 2, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 26, 27
There are also seven other references to the (Holy) Ghost/Spirit in Romans:
Romans 5:5; 9:1; 14:17; 15:13, 16, 19, 30
Then I realized that Romans 1:4 is not one of these, even though I thought it referred to the Holy Spirit. If it is the Holy Spirit referred to here as well, the pattern is marred here. Regardless of what you think of words or phrases being repeated 7/14, etc. times, it is what led me to consider this passage further.
I looked up all the English translations that Blue Letter Bible had and saw that only the Webster's 1833 and the ASV (of 1901) had a lower case s here. (Tyndale does as well, plus the 1611 - verified through Swordsearcher). ALL modern versions had Spirit of Holiness or Holy Spirit. Seeing this made me realize that my initial understanding of this verse was from modern versions, as I had read and studied from the NIV, NASV, and the NKJV before becoming KJVonly. Learning that verse in the NASV caused me to always look at it that way.
Now I realize I could be wrong.
Don't worry about the patterns, but it was what got my attention and made me dig deeper - but I don't want to base theology on a pattern.
Do you think that Romans 1:4 is referring to the Holy Spirit or to Jesus' own spirit (which is holy and sinless)?
Romans 1:4 (KJV) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Though it is lower case, I have believed this is referring to the Holy Spirit (there are some places in the King James that I believe refer to the Holy Spirit but have a lower case "s", such as Psalm 51:11.
I have ever since a young believer believed that this verse was saying the Holy Spirit rose Jesus Christ from the dead (various passages attribute this to all three members of the Trinity), but now something has made me pause and wonder if I have a wrong understanding of this verse.
I don't make theology based on patterns, but the numbers in the Scripture (or things repeated so many times, etc. show that is is no doubt God's Book - man could not have written it with so many numerical patterns and still have it make sense. Referring to things such as the seven statements from the cross, Jesus' seven I AM's in John, seven public miracles in John, seven feasts in John, etc. I love sevens and when I read of one or see one myself, I make note of it. I found one the other day. In Romans 8, there are 14 verses about the Holy Spirit. This is the chapter after Paul describes the struggles believers have with the flesh, and wondering how we get the victory (Romans 7:24), then he goes on to show us in Romans 8 it is through the power and leading of the Holy Spirit. 14 times signifying complete victory. Ok, interesting pattern.
Then I looked up all other references to the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost in Romans. Seven more in the whole book.
There are 14 verses in this chapter that mention the (Holy) Spirit:
Romans 8:1, 2, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 26, 27
There are also seven other references to the (Holy) Ghost/Spirit in Romans:
Romans 5:5; 9:1; 14:17; 15:13, 16, 19, 30
Then I realized that Romans 1:4 is not one of these, even though I thought it referred to the Holy Spirit. If it is the Holy Spirit referred to here as well, the pattern is marred here. Regardless of what you think of words or phrases being repeated 7/14, etc. times, it is what led me to consider this passage further.
I looked up all the English translations that Blue Letter Bible had and saw that only the Webster's 1833 and the ASV (of 1901) had a lower case s here. (Tyndale does as well, plus the 1611 - verified through Swordsearcher). ALL modern versions had Spirit of Holiness or Holy Spirit. Seeing this made me realize that my initial understanding of this verse was from modern versions, as I had read and studied from the NIV, NASV, and the NKJV before becoming KJVonly. Learning that verse in the NASV caused me to always look at it that way.
Now I realize I could be wrong.
Don't worry about the patterns, but it was what got my attention and made me dig deeper - but I don't want to base theology on a pattern.
Do you think that Romans 1:4 is referring to the Holy Spirit or to Jesus' own spirit (which is holy and sinless)?